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Heatley to SJ, NYR or Dallas?(updates on Sens, NYR, NYI and Dallas at 545pm EST) PDF
Written by Kevin Lee on Tuesday, 04 August 2009 03:22   
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The Dany Heatley rumours are really firing up as Sens GM Bryan Murray tries to get a deal done sooner rather than later.

Updated at 545pm EST - The NY Rangers are definitely inquiring about Heatley again after speaking with a few more sources. What I am told is that the Rangers want to get rid of Rosival at all costs in hopes of doing a couple things. One, acquire Heatley and then bury Redden's contract in the AHL to go after a 2nd line center. Glen Sather is very intersted in Mike Comrie as a 3rd line center and Sather plans on having Artem Anisimov as their 4th line center who played last year in Hartford. The Dallas Stars have been more than kicking tires on the Heatley scenario. The Stars are loaded on the left side and would trade James Neal or Loui Eriksson along with Brad Richards. Murray desperately wants to unload Chris Kelly and the Stars have asked about Brian Lee's availability.

NYI update - Garth Snow is 4 million from the cap floor and that includes the buyouts of Yashin and Shawn Bates. He is going hard after Alex Tanguay as he knows they need some experience at the forward position. Look for Snow to sign Andrew Peters too as the Isles have little in the way of toughness up front.

Now keep this in mind, all of what I am writing is what I am being told from various sources and I am trying to piece this together like everyone else during these last 6 weeks of crazy Heatley talk.  With the Edmonton Oilers officially out of the Heatley trade talks, everyone is onto the possible three way deal involving the SJ Sharks and Montreal Canadiens.  A three way deal is extremely tough to complete in the salary cap era especially when all 3 teams mentioned are up against the cap.  Personally, I feel that the chances of Heatley ending up in SJ are in the 25-40% range.  I have spoken to two sources very close to the situation in SJ and the belief is the Sharks don't believe they can complete this type of complicated three way deal, too much has to happen.

With the arbitrator's ruling on Nikolai Zherdev a few days ago, as first reported at this site before the NHL Entry Draft, the NY Rangers want nothing to do with Zherdev and will most likely away from his ruling.  That leaves Brandon Dubinsky as the only key re-signing left for the Rangers.  Many close to the situation wonder if Murray would take Dubinsky back in a trade with Heatley as he originally declined taking Dubinsky back in June.  Murray also wants no part of Rosival's contract, but all of that could change if he feels the Sharks can't pull off the three team deal.  Would Murray get desparate and take back more salary than he wants to?  Murray wants a top prospect and I am told he absolutely needs Ryan McDonaugh to be part of any deal, McDonaugh was acquired in the Scott Gomez deal with Montreal.  Still, it is very intriguing that the NY Rangers are trying to be quiet in resuming their talks with the Sens about Heatley.  Heatley was extremely close to being dealt to NY before the draft and if not for Murray leaking the potential Oilers names, the deal was all but done.  Now the question is would Edmonton sign Zherdev so the Rangers could go after Heatley?  Trust me, all of this could very well happen.  Murray wants this Heatley saga to end so he can focus on where he stands with his cap space.  He could possibly sign Mike Comrie to a two year deal and finalize his roster but it all hinges on Heatley, although the Columbus Blue Jackets have recently showed interest in Comrie. 

The other twist is that the Dallas Stars have entered the fray when it comes to the Heatley talks.  The Stars have inquired before and have a ton of cap space although I am told they still would like to unload the contract of Brad Richards.  I first reported this before free agency began but Richards would have to waive his NTC for any deal to occur.  In talking to two people tonight close to Richards out in PEI, both confirmed that Richards has recently been approached by Stars management about possibly waiving his NTC.  If Murray was to trade Heatley to Dallas, he would be taking back alot of salary unless he could unload another contract to get under the cap and the name of Chris Kelly has come up.  Dallas would still have Mike Ribeiro and Mike Modano up the middle but Modano has one year left on his deal and this will most likely be his last year playing before retiring.  So the Stars would want a little depth at Center and Kelly fits the bill. 

So does Heatley end up in Dallas along with Kelly for Richards and James Neal along with a top defensive prospect?  Or does he somehow end up in SJ if Montreal can pull off a trade with the Sharks?  Or will Heatley somehow find his way to his first destination of choice that his agents orginally orchestrated, the NYR?

One thing is for sure, there is more than one team after Heatley unlike what you are hearing from most writers.  Murray has options and is holding his cards very close to his vest.  This is one of the reason's the Oilers pulled out, they heard 2 other teams were going to re-enter the possibility of acquiring Heatley and weren't about to wait around any longer.

I will be back late this afternoon with a quick update on the Heatley to NYR rumours after I talk to 2 major sources.  Yes, the 2 sources who gave me the Derek Morris and Nik Antropov trades to the NYR at the deadline before everyone which includes TV Networks or newspaper/hockey sites on the net.  If anything breaks earlier I will be sure to update the blog. 

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Last Updated ( Tuesday, 04 August 2009 18:43 )
 

Comments  

 
0 # Lee Tremblay 2009-08-04 00:23 I would like to know what Montreal would be getting/giving up in this possible three way deal.
 
 
0 # Dan Rakusan 2009-08-04 08:45 Quoting Lee Tremblay:
I would like to know what Montreal would be getting/giving up in this possible three way deal.

Speculative reports have either Cheechoo or Marleau heading to the Habs… Likely along with some minor name player, but that's what I've heard around the grapevine so far… I'd say it's only about a 20% chance that this will happen (the major 3-way).
 
 
0 # Lee Tremblay 2009-08-04 10:19 BUt what would Montreal be giving up?
 
 
0 # Dan Rakusan 2009-08-04 12:06 Quoting Lee Tremblay:
BUt what would Montreal be giving up?

I believe Plekanec and a prospect are what MTL would be giving up, which would instantly make SJ the winners. Plekanec got a bad rap in MTL because of his off-ice shenanigans. I know his girlfriend, and he's quite a party dude apparently…
 
 
0 # Sandy Gemmiti 2009-08-04 03:08 I would be shocked to see Dallas part with Neal and Richards for Heatley. Richards was a key to the team last season and while I agree it isn't out of the question to move him I don't think they would dream of trading Neal after the promise he showed last season…I would hope not anyways as Heatley is just an overpaid floater who happens to light it up for 50
 
 
0 # Dan Rakusan 2009-08-04 08:46 Quoting Sandy Gemmiti:
I would be shocked to see Dallas part with Neal and Richards for Heatley. Richards was a key to the team last season and while I agree it isn't out of the question to move him I don't think they would dream of trading Neal after the promise he showed last season…I would hope not anyways as Heatley is just an overpaid floater who happens to light it up for 50

Agreed. Firstly, if they lose Richards, who is going to pass to the floater that is Heatley? Secondly, too much money coming back for the Sens to swallow, even if Kelly does go to Dallas…
 
 
0 # Dan Rakusan 2009-08-04 08:47 I'm shocked the Rangers walked away from Zherdev's arbitration award (which I thought was rather fair considering the comparables). Now we're totally screwed. I still don't want the cancer with the gap-toother grin on my team either, as he is just another bad contract that would see our team totally cap-strapped. I'd prefer to have kept Zherdev, or done a sign-and-trade with Nashville… Oh well, life's a bitch!
 
 
0 # Sandy Gemmiti 2009-08-04 09:35 what about

Heatley, Kelly, Schubert, and Smith

for

Neal, Richards

..Riberio would be the guy tossing the floaters to Heatley. What people don't realize about Mike is he is a fantastic passer just rarely can guys finish for him. Could be a perfect marriage. Also Richards on a line with Alfie and Spezza with Kovalev would work out nicely. Kelly and Schubert would give the Stars some needed depth with Jere and Mo set to retire soon and Smith could provide some leadership to a pretty young D group. Guys like Niskanen and Daley could like use a role model like Smith around.

Would be tons of salary for Dallas to swallow as they would be taking about 3 million extra in salary but also receiving 2 extra players. The promise of young James Neal will be tough to move. He can score, fight, hit…what more can you ask for.
 
 
0 # Kevin Lee 2009-08-04 09:51 Quoting Dan Rakusan:
I'm shocked the Rangers walked away from Zherdev's arbitration award (which I thought was rather fair considering the comparables). Now we're totally screwed. I still don't want the cancer with the gap-toother grin on my team either, as he is just another bad contract that would see our team totally cap-strapped. I'd prefer to have kept Zherdev, or done a sign-and-trade with Nashville… Oh well, life's a bitch!


Not to sound like a know it all, but honestly, I knew flat out from back in June that the Rangers wanted nothing to do with Zherdev. His agent Rolly Hedges who I know quite well here in Ottawa could make the Sens a possibility for him. Again, it all depends on Heatley.
 
 
0 # Dan Rakusan 2009-08-04 09:57 Quoting Kevin Lee:
Quoting Dan Rakusan:
I'm shocked the Rangers walked away from Zherdev's arbitration award (which I thought was rather fair considering the comparables). Now we're totally screwed. I still don't want the cancer with the gap-toother grin on my team either, as he is just another bad contract that would see our team totally cap-strapped. I'd prefer to have kept Zherdev, or done a sign-and-trade with Nashville… Oh well, life's a bitch!

You don't sound like a know-it-all, but there is a flaw in your reasoning… If Zherdev was never in the plans moving foward, why didn't Slats try and trade him for someone or a pick at least? It seems like realistically, that would have made more sense than waiting until after arbitration. To me, it was obvious that Z no longer fit the team profile, but it seems like a total waste of Fedor Tyutin to let him walk for nothing at all…

My thought process was a sign-and-trade move, which would see Z getting his $3.9M per season and then flipping him for a pick (maybe at best a 3rd rounder)…

If Ottawa wants him, they can have him. He'd be a better fit than Richards in my opinion, since Richards carries a pretty lofty salary cap hit…

Not to sound like a know it all, but honestly, I knew flat out from back in June that the Rangers wanted nothing to do with Zherdev. His agent Rolly Hedges who I know quite well here in Ottawa could make the Sens a possibility for him. Again, it all depends on Heatley.
 
 
0 # Kevin Lee 2009-08-04 09:51 Quoting Sandy Gemmiti:
what about

Heatley, Kelly, Schubert, and Smith

for

Neal, Richards

..Riberio would be the guy tossing the floaters to Heatley. What people don't realize about Mike is he is a fantastic passer just rarely can guys finish for him. Could be a perfect marriage. Also Richards on a line with Alfie and Spezza with Kovalev would work out nicely. Kelly and Schubert would give the Stars some needed depth with Jere and Mo set to retire soon and Smith could provide some leadership to a pretty young D group. Guys like Niskanen and Daley could like use a role model like Smith around.

Would be tons of salary for Dallas to swallow as they would be taking about 3 million extra in salary but also receiving 2 extra players. The promise of young James Neal will be tough to move. He can score, fight, hit…what more can you ask for.


I would have no problem with that deal! Works for everyone involved.
 
 
0 # Dan Rakusan 2009-08-04 09:58 Quoting Kevin Lee:
Quoting Sandy Gemmiti:
what about

Heatley, Kelly, Schubert, and Smith

for

Neal, Richards

..Riberio would be the guy tossing the floaters to Heatley. What people don't realize about Mike is he is a fantastic passer just rarely can guys finish for him. Could be a perfect marriage. Also Richards on a line with Alfie and Spezza with Kovalev would work out nicely. Kelly and Schubert would give the Stars some needed depth with Jere and Mo set to retire soon and Smith could provide some leadership to a pretty young D group. Guys like Niskanen and Daley could like use a role model like Smith around.

Would be tons of salary for Dallas to swallow as they would be taking about 3 million extra in salary but also receiving 2 extra players. The promise of young James Neal will be tough to move. He can score, fight, hit…what more can you ask for.


I would have no problem with that deal! Works for everyone involved.

How do you spell "pipe-dream"? LOL… Oh wait, I just did it…
 
 
0 # Kevin Lee 2009-08-04 09:52 I will have an update posted at 5pm or so today!
 
 
0 # Sandy Gemmiti 2009-08-05 04:08 swap out Schubert from that deal and pop in Lee…